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#1 2010-05-16 11:42:46

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The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

Maybe it's just me, but i think that in real life NBA Basketball, trading, free agency, and the NBA Draft makes the game.
It heightens the excitement of the game just for the mere fact that you don't have a clue what to expect.

For instance, look at this upcoming summers possible (I'm saying possible because they could stay with their teams) free agents:
Lebron james
Dwayne Wade
Chris Bosh
Amare Stoudemire 
Dirk Nowitzki
Joe Johnson
Carlos Boozer
Yao Ming
Paul Pierce
Rudy Gay... and etc, etc.

Now, a true NBA Fan gets a sense of excitement by looking at the above list, thinking "Whats going to happen?"
If any ONE of those players leaves their teams, the whole look of the team they just look changes.
Everyone of them players are game changers who put the team on their shoulders night in, and night out.

What if, just what IF, our beloved game Court Rivals had this same type of feel?
What if the best player in the Jordan league, Bird league, Kareem League gets traded to a losing team and re-energizes that team, leading them to championships and playoff runs, or even better, gets traded to another LEAGUE?
What if the players had contracts, which they could opt in or out of and have the excitement of who is going to offer them a spot?

WHAT IF this happened to court rivals?

Court rivals is easily compared to the NBA and i think trading and free agency would be the ultimate plus. Im just throwing the idea out there and seeing if it catches on.
I would be more than willing to help set this up, or try it out via a forum, or anything. I just want to see if it would work, which i think it would. (kaz, im talking to you (: )

If anyone wants to pursue this with me, please PM me. we can talk about it smile

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#2 2010-05-16 11:56:56

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

I could see making  a separate league for it, but not all leagues. Because I think some people like being on the team they are on, and wouldn't like the idea of having to get traded to some piss poor team. and this isn't like real life where one player changes the whole team


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#3 2010-05-16 12:17:45

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

I think a league that had these rules would be cool, but not every league


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#4 2010-05-16 12:31:03

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

BleedBlue wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but i think that in real life NBA Basketball, trading, free agency, and the NBA Draft makes the game.
It heightens the excitement of the game just for the mere fact that you don't have a clue what to expect.

For instance, look at this upcoming summers possible (I'm saying possible because they could stay with their teams) free agents:
Lebron james
Dwayne Wade
Chris Bosh
Amare Stoudemire 
Dirk Nowitzki
Joe Johnson
Carlos Boozer
Yao Ming
Paul Pierce
Rudy Gay... and etc, etc.

Now, a true NBA Fan gets a sense of excitement by looking at the above list, thinking "Whats going to happen?"
If any ONE of those players leaves their teams, the whole look of the team they just look changes.
Everyone of them players are game changers who put the team on their shoulders night in, and night out.

What if, just what IF, our beloved game Court Rivals had this same type of feel?
What if the best player in the Jordan league, Bird league, Kareem League gets traded to a losing team and re-energizes that team, leading them to championships and playoff runs, or even better, gets traded to another LEAGUE?
What if the players had contracts, which they could opt in or out of and have the excitement of who is going to offer them a spot?

WHAT IF this happened to court rivals?

Great post and great idea! big_smile I do agree with others, though, that if this idea is to work out and - first of all - is even able to work out, it should probably be be used in certain leagues or even just one league. I personally like being on a team with others I know, and I don't plan on finding another team anytime soon.

Saying this, I'm not sure how difficult it would be to run a league with this idea. I personally would think it could maybe bring constant moderation of trades (Similar to what they do on fantasy football. If there are two teams owned by two friends, one of those friends whose team isn't doing too good might trade their best players so their friend can possibly win a championship.). Just a possibility, though.

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#5 2010-05-16 12:35:25

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

Lebron James is actually good though.  Players in CR are just functions of good teammates and proper planning.  I mean you put Lebron on the worst NBA team and they become much better.  You put a CR MVP on a pro C team and....nothing will change.  The idea is fine, but it just doesn't fit with how the game works.


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#6 2010-05-16 12:43:56

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

bbkaos wrote:

Lebron James is actually good though.  Players in CR are just functions of good teammates and proper planning.  I mean you put Lebron on the worst NBA team and they become much better.  You put a CR MVP on a pro C team and....nothing will change.  The idea is fine, but it just doesn't fit with how the game works.

I'm not sure how courtrivals.com works, but if what you say is true, you have a really good point. sad


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#7 2010-05-16 12:44:39

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

bbkaos wrote:

The idea is fine, but it just doesn't fit with how the game works.


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#8 2010-05-16 12:55:28

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

Deathstar 80 wrote:

bbkaos wrote:

Lebron James is actually good though.  Players in CR are just functions of good teammates and proper planning.  I mean you put Lebron on the worst NBA team and they become much better.  You put a CR MVP on a pro C team and....nothing will change.  The idea is fine, but it just doesn't fit with how the game works.

I'm not sure how courtrivals.com works, but if what you say is true, you have a really good point. sad

you could ask this person how courtrivals actually works lol

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#9 2010-05-16 12:59:58

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

Well its like....you just can't become a Lebron or Kobe in basketball in real life.  In CR, any player can be trained and put in a lineup in such a way that they can win MVP.  The players aren't important, the users/captain is everything.  People naturally focus on the players here, because that is what they do in real life.  That is fine, but it misses the point.


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#10 2010-05-16 13:00:51

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

mikasa032 wrote:

Deathstar 80 wrote:

bbkaos wrote:

Lebron James is actually good though.  Players in CR are just functions of good teammates and proper planning.  I mean you put Lebron on the worst NBA team and they become much better.  You put a CR MVP on a pro C team and....nothing will change.  The idea is fine, but it just doesn't fit with how the game works.

I'm not sure how courtrivals.com works, but if what you say is true, you have a really good point. sad

you could ask this person how courtrivals actually works lol

http://www.courtrivals.com/mail.php?a=w … ;uid=25511

Lol, I shouldn't. I'll be e-mailing him too much! :p


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#11 2010-05-16 13:01:56

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

I'll be sitting here watching baseball for a few hours, so ask anything you like.


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#12 2010-05-16 13:04:55

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

bbkaos wrote:

I'll be sitting here watching baseball for a few hours, so ask anything you like.

What's your favorite color?


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#13 2010-05-16 13:05:18

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

Deathstar 80 wrote:

mikasa032 wrote:

Deathstar 80 wrote:


I'm not sure how courtrivals.com works, but if what you say is true, you have a really good point. sad

you could ask this person how courtrivals actually works lol

http://www.courtrivals.com/mail.php?a=w … ;uid=25511

Lol, I shouldn't. I'll be e-mailing him too much! :p

I learned lots from him. tongue


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#14 2010-05-16 13:06:04

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

Nice suggestion, but it wouldn't fit at this game at all because team commitment is not a feature in CR. You could join and leave a team anytime you want. Having said this, I've got a little suggestion on my own:
once a player joins a team, he should be locked to that team for the rest of the season (the only way he can leave is if he is kicked by the captain).. Don't know if that's a good idea but it would surely reduce the number of team-hoppers.

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#15 2010-05-16 13:09:28

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mattya802 wrote:

bbkaos wrote:

I'll be sitting here watching baseball for a few hours, so ask anything you like.

What's your favorite color?

blue


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#16 2010-05-16 13:52:14

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

bbkaos wrote:

mattya802 wrote:

bbkaos wrote:

I'll be sitting here watching baseball for a few hours, so ask anything you like.

What's your favorite color?

blue

can you screw over Lil Hulk so as to improve Bruce Campbell chances for an MVP?


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#17 2010-05-16 14:01:31

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I thought I already was tongue


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#18 2010-05-16 14:07:24

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

Maybe this could be a test idea for the west league then?


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#19 2010-05-16 14:15:01

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

This already does happen unofficially.  Demandred and Little Hulk were recruited to RotLP.  Super Heroes in Jordan have had tons of different players throughout the seasons but remain a top team.  Players change teams when it makes sense for both their owners and the captains involved. 

If you want to relate CR to the NBA...imagine if Lebron had most attributes over 300 each season, and most regular NBA players were capped at around 150.  See what I mean?


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#20 2010-05-16 21:55:44

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

Besides, with the way it is set out there are just way too many teams to have any sort of draft working. There is already free agency but right now it works in the way of soccer with the best players generally going to the best teams. Although it depends on what someone wants to get out of the game. You may join a not so well reputed team if you can get on a squad that really accuentates your players strengths and gives you good stats. Or you may join a lower team cos you want the challenge of helping raising them to become an elite team.


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#21 2010-05-17 00:04:00

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

BleedBlue wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but i think that in real life NBA Basketball, trading, free agency, and the NBA Draft makes the game.
It heightens the excitement of the game just for the mere fact that you don't have a clue what to expect.

For instance, look at this upcoming summers possible (I'm saying possible because they could stay with their teams) free agents:
Lebron james
Dwayne Wade
Chris Bosh
Amare Stoudemire 
Dirk Nowitzki
Joe Johnson
Carlos Boozer
Yao Ming
Paul Pierce
Rudy Gay... and etc, etc.

Now, a true NBA Fan gets a sense of excitement by looking at the above list, thinking "Whats going to happen?"
If any ONE of those players leaves their teams, the whole look of the team they just look changes.
Everyone of them players are game changers who put the team on their shoulders night in, and night out.

What if, just what IF, our beloved game Court Rivals had this same type of feel?
What if the best player in the Jordan league, Bird league, Kareem League gets traded to a losing team and re-energizes that team, leading them to championships and playoff runs, or even better, gets traded to another LEAGUE?
What if the players had contracts, which they could opt in or out of and have the excitement of who is going to offer them a spot?

WHAT IF this happened to court rivals?

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#22 2010-05-17 03:05:41

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

A draft would be cool, especially if it were something like, if you are a new player, you get your name put into a draft and get picked by a team.

It will never happen for three reasons, the way I see it.
1.  You have no guarantees of consistency with new users, whereas if you can pile together a team of people you know won't get bored with the game after 3 days or just leave, you can be successful.
2. There aren't enough active teams out there who actively need to replace players, with NEW players.  They look for players to fill the role that the leaving players filled.  Unfortunately, this is a game of numbers, so if a 900 leaves, you need someone around a 900 to replace him, whereas in the NBA, you can go, PEACE DEVIN HARRIS, I'll one up you with John Wall! and perhaps be even better.
3. Say a draft was in place for new users, and I signed up today.  If I wanted to get drafted onto a team, I would have to wait a month from the day I signed up just to start playing?

Sorry, it really just isn't possible with the current set up.  And I really think trades with just cause discomfort among different players/teams and contracts would just get annoying.  I think what is good about CR right now (though improvements could be made) is that it is simplistic for the casual user to just pop on, train, set skills, and enjoy (or get mad at heh) the results or it can be quite complex for someone interested into looking into player matchups, point totals, and really doing some math to put it all together.  It really is what makes this game work.

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#23 2010-05-17 08:49:33

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

Free Agency does happen a bit, especially with the recruitment of key players and users. Think of all the teams that are formed out of the same groups of users or good players/users joining together to form a new team.


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#24 2010-05-17 16:09:07

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

bbkaos wrote:

Well its like....you just can't become a Lebron or Kobe in basketball in real life.  In CR, any player can be trained and put in a lineup in such a way that they can win MVP.  The players aren't important, the users/captain is everything.  People naturally focus on the players here, because that is what they do in real life.  That is fine, but it misses the point.

i understand this.
but, what your not considering is the best players on court rivals are usually some of the most knowledgeable of the game. It takes a more than a couple of seasons to get an "Elite" player.. and once an elite player joins your team, the dominoes start to fall and you slowly build up. this is EXACTLY what happened with my team.

Having an elite player on your team not only raises your competition level but it also intrigues other players to join.

Court rivals is easily compared to the NBA and i think trading and free agency would be the ultimate plus. Im just throwing the idea out there and seeing if it catches on. I would be more than willing to help set this up, or try it out via a forum, or anything. I just want to see if it would work, which i think it would. (kaz, im talking to you (: )

If anyone wants to pursue this with me, please PM me. we can talk about it smile


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#25 2010-05-17 16:43:23

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Re: The Future of Court Rivals: Trading, free agency, and the draft

i know TM is gonna pm you... but his success with the draft is ...well mediocre at best


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