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#26 2010-09-15 10:14:46

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Re: Farewell Bird

Bird!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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#27 2010-09-15 10:16:51

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Re: Farewell Bird

SwaggerJ wrote:

Bird!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#28 2010-09-16 06:39:50

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Re: Farewell Bird

Maybe someone could write something to similar to what Harbour did for Jordan, Bird's Top 15 teams of all time.


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#29 2010-09-16 07:45:37

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Re: Farewell Bird

Well if you take the champions you got like 12-13 teams right there.

So who gets to fight for 14th and 15th lol


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#30 2010-09-16 07:51:20

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Re: Farewell Bird

B4D and Pwnstars, who were Infinity 2.0 and the Windowlickers.


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#31 2010-09-16 08:10:24

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B4D gets in out of pity.


Season 10 & 11 Kareem Champions: Just Blaze Season 14 & 15 Champions: Boom Goes The Odenite
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#32 2010-09-16 08:22:29

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lol then Pwnstars gets it out of humor.


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#33 2010-09-16 08:30:32

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Re: Farewell Bird

It's a deal.


Season 10 & 11 Kareem Champions: Just Blaze Season 14 & 15 Champions: Boom Goes The Odenite
Season 12 Bird Champions: Full Eclipse Season 15 Champions: RK Beer Barons
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#34 2010-09-17 04:04:17

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Ran some simple math where points are assigned based on where the team's playoff run eventually ended. Elite 8 = 2, Final 4 = 4, Runner Up = 5, Champion = 6. Consistency is rewarded basically, more so than the breakthrough season. Also, there are plenty of ties in terms of aggregate points in which case higher finishes are used as tie breaker.

And the top 20 teams of Bird are:
18-20. Wizards Extreme Ballers, Chicken Mafia, Toon Squad - 2 E8, 1 F4 each
17.  Original Pilipino Music - 1 C'ship, 1 E8
16. Wagga Wagga Wombat Collective - 1 R-Up, 2 E8
14-15. Honolulu LocoMoco, The Galactic Titans - 1 R-Up, 1 F4 each
13. Ballin for Dummies - 1 E8, 2 F4
12. Always Ballin - 1 C'ship, 1 F4
11. Eggsistential Crisis - 1 R-Up, 3 E8
9-10. Spider Pigs (San Antonio Spurs), RK Croquet Hoes - 1 R-Up, 1 F4, 1 E8 each
8. RK Beer Barons - 1 C'ship, 3 E8
7. Crunch Time - 1 R-Up, 1 F4, 2 E8
6. Raiders of the Lost Walrus - 1 C'ship, 1 F4, 2 E8
5. Animal Farm - 2 C'ships, 1 E8
4. Norman Sooners - 1 R-Up, 2 F4, 1 E8
3. Bloody Mary - 2 C'ships, 1 F4
2. Diliman United - 1 C'ship, 1 R-Up, 1 F4, 1 E8
1. Full Eclipse - 1 C'ship, 1 R-Up, 2 F4, 1 E8


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#35 2010-09-17 05:14:54

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Re: Farewell Bird

mjcezar wrote:

Ran some simple math where points are assigned based on where the team's playoff run eventually ended. Elite 8 = 2, Final 4 = 4, Runner Up = 5, Champion = 6. Consistency is rewarded basically, more so than the breakthrough season. Also, there are plenty of ties in terms of aggregate points in which case higher finishes are used as tie breaker.

And the top 20 teams of Bird are:
18-20. Wizards Extreme Ballers, Chicken Mafia, Toon Squad - 2 E8, 1 F4 each
17.  Original Pilipino Music - 1 C'ship, 1 E8
16. Wagga Wagga Wombat Collective - 1 R-Up, 2 E8
14-15. Honolulu LocoMoco, The Galactic Titans - 1 R-Up, 1 F4 each
13. Ballin for Dummies - 1 E8, 2 F4
12. Always Ballin - 1 C'ship, 1 F4
11. Eggsistential Crisis - 1 R-Up, 3 E8
9-10. Spider Pigs (San Antonio Spurs), RK Croquet Hoes - 1 R-Up, 1 F4, 1 E8 each
8. RK Beer Barons - 1 C'ship, 3 E8
7. Crunch Time - 1 R-Up, 1 F4, 2 E8
6. Raiders of the Lost Walrus - 1 C'ship, 1 F4, 2 E8
5. Animal Farm - 2 C'ships, 1 E8
4. Norman Sooners - 1 R-Up, 2 F4, 1 E8
3. Bloody Mary - 2 C'ships, 1 F4
2. Diliman United - 1 C'ship, 1 R-Up, 1 F4, 1 E8
1. Full Eclipse - 1 C'ship, 1 R-Up, 2 F4, 1 E8

This might be true if teams doesn't change/ create new team.. however, i believe.. OPM's roots came from Batibot which also has 1 E8 appearance. Don't know if there's also other teams who did the same thing. I also think Outsiders and Inner City Apostles should have been on the list. smile

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#36 2010-09-17 05:20:01

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Re: Farewell Bird

I also think that regular season should have SOME play into it.  Not alot though, just some (if we are doing a points system).  There have been GREAT teams in Bird, who just have shit luck in the playoffs.  To imply that regular season means nothing (which I know is not what you are doing), implies that the regular season work some of these teams do, mean nothing.


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Season 12 Bird Champions: Full Eclipse Season 15 Champions: RK Beer Barons
Season 16 West Champions: Even Money
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#37 2010-09-17 06:02:11

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Mikzinger Z wrote:

This might be true if teams doesn't change/ create new team.. however, i believe.. OPM's roots came from Batibot which also has 1 E8 appearance. Don't know if there's also other teams who did the same thing. I also think Outsiders and Inner City Apostles should have been on the list. smile

I don't have a way of tracing the roots of each team although I am sure this is a recurrent case e.g. wetpiece's teams, pwnstars/windowlickers. Hard to pinpoint exactly what constitutes a "franchise". If someone can post the history of all teams, I can re-work the aggregates. Re: ICA & Outsiders, they basically won 1 championship and bailed, and as stated in the preamble, the scoring was meant to reward consistency.

ToFuSmurF wrote:

I also think that regular season should have SOME play into it.  Not alot though, just some (if we are doing a points system).  There have been GREAT teams in Bird, who just have shit luck in the playoffs.  To imply that regular season means nothing (which I know is not what you are doing), implies that the regular season work some of these teams do, mean nothing.

I completely agree. Someone please draw the regular season records of all 71 teams that have made the sweet 16. smile

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#38 2010-09-17 06:04:31

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Re: Farewell Bird

mjcezar wrote:

Mikzinger Z wrote:

This might be true if teams doesn't change/ create new team.. however, i believe.. OPM's roots came from Batibot which also has 1 E8 appearance. Don't know if there's also other teams who did the same thing. I also think Outsiders and Inner City Apostles should have been on the list. smile

I don't have a way of tracing the roots of each team although I am sure this is a recurrent case e.g. wetpiece's teams, pwnstars/windowlickers. Hard to pinpoint exactly what constitutes a "franchise". If someone can post the history of all teams, I can re-work the aggregates. Re: ICA & Outsiders, they basically won 1 championship and bailed, and as stated in the preamble, the scoring was meant to reward consistency.

ToFuSmurF wrote:

I also think that regular season should have SOME play into it.  Not alot though, just some (if we are doing a points system).  There have been GREAT teams in Bird, who just have shit luck in the playoffs.  To imply that regular season means nothing (which I know is not what you are doing), implies that the regular season work some of these teams do, mean nothing.

I completely agree. Someone please draw the regular season records of all 71 teams that have made the sweet 16. smile

I think Harbour wants to volunteer, since he's such a CR history buff.


Season 10 & 11 Kareem Champions: Just Blaze Season 14 & 15 Champions: Boom Goes The Odenite
Season 12 Bird Champions: Full Eclipse Season 15 Champions: RK Beer Barons
Season 16 West Champions: Even Money
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#39 2010-09-17 06:22:55

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Re: Farewell Bird

ToFuSmurF wrote:

mjcezar wrote:

Mikzinger Z wrote:

This might be true if teams doesn't change/ create new team.. however, i believe.. OPM's roots came from Batibot which also has 1 E8 appearance. Don't know if there's also other teams who did the same thing. I also think Outsiders and Inner City Apostles should have been on the list. smile

I don't have a way of tracing the roots of each team although I am sure this is a recurrent case e.g. wetpiece's teams, pwnstars/windowlickers. Hard to pinpoint exactly what constitutes a "franchise". If someone can post the history of all teams, I can re-work the aggregates. Re: ICA & Outsiders, they basically won 1 championship and bailed, and as stated in the preamble, the scoring was meant to reward consistency.

ToFuSmurF wrote:

I also think that regular season should have SOME play into it.  Not alot though, just some (if we are doing a points system).  There have been GREAT teams in Bird, who just have shit luck in the playoffs.  To imply that regular season means nothing (which I know is not what you are doing), implies that the regular season work some of these teams do, mean nothing.

I completely agree. Someone please draw the regular season records of all 71 teams that have made the sweet 16. smile

I think Harbour wants to volunteer, since he's such a CR history buff.

This is really a tedious work. As early as now, I honor those people who will be doing this stuff. Salutes to mj and harborÖ

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#40 2010-09-17 08:44:53

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Re: Farewell Bird

Woo Woo! Full Eclipse's legacy lives on!

cool

I'm fine with that list mjcezar, no need to adjust tongue


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#41 2010-09-17 08:46:55

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Re: Farewell Bird

SwaggerJ wrote:

Woo Woo! Full Eclipse's legacy lives on!

cool

I'm fine with that list mjcezar, no need to adjust tongue

heh.


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#42 2010-09-17 09:34:40

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Re: Farewell Bird

SwaggerJ wrote:

Woo Woo! Full Eclipse's legacy lives on!

cool

I'm fine with that list mjcezar, no need to adjust tongue

Unless someone else draws numbers for me, I won't so don't worry about it. tongue

To be honest, I do think Full Eclipse was the greatest franchise in the short history of Bird. Although if the Sooners hadn't shifted to Kareem for a couple of seasons, I'd probably think otherwise. tongue


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#43 2010-09-17 11:41:32

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Re: Farewell Bird

SwaggerJ wrote:

Woo Woo! Full Eclipse's legacy lives on!

cool

I'm fine with that list mjcezar, no need to adjust tongue

yep kudos guys. it'll be a big help with the CR Wikia project.
Speaking off, the fabled CR teams should also start building up their respective home pages. pm me (i guess for now...) so we could coordinate the linking of your home pages to the CR History section. smile


Animal Farm: Champions (S16, S13 Bird, S22 Classic), Runner-up (S19), Elite8 (S11)
The Studmuffin Bakery: Champions (S18 Kareem); Casa Nova: Champions (S20 West)
Diliman United: Runner-up (S18 Bird), Final4 (S20 Classic); Start Loving Pinoys: Elite8 (S20 Jordan)
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#44 2010-09-17 11:43:28

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Re: Farewell Bird

mjcezar wrote:

SwaggerJ wrote:

Woo Woo! Full Eclipse's legacy lives on!

cool

I'm fine with that list mjcezar, no need to adjust tongue

Unless someone else draws numbers for me, I won't so don't worry about it. tongue

To be honest, I do think Full Eclipse was the greatest franchise in the short history of Bird. Although if the Sooners hadn't shifted to Kareem for a couple of seasons, I'd probably think otherwise. tongue

I agree. Just being the top ten/five in Bird League history is such an honor. Grats again to everyone. smile

Btw, it'll be great if someone makes a write-up about this. "hint hint" someone who started doing Jordan's all-time ranking too... smile

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Animal Farm: Champions (S16, S13 Bird, S22 Classic), Runner-up (S19), Elite8 (S11)
The Studmuffin Bakery: Champions (S18 Kareem); Casa Nova: Champions (S20 West)
Diliman United: Runner-up (S18 Bird), Final4 (S20 Classic); Start Loving Pinoys: Elite8 (S20 Jordan)
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#45 2010-09-17 16:01:13

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Re: Farewell Bird

Maybe I'll throw out some Full Eclipse info for the wiki. I already have a huge post sitting in the team forum that was half finished about 4 seasons ago. Maybe I'll get around to completing it one of these days smile


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#46 2010-09-17 16:33:21

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SwaggerJ wrote:

Maybe I'll throw out some Full Eclipse info for the wiki. I already have a huge post sitting in the team forum that was half finished about 4 seasons ago. Maybe I'll get around to completing it one of these days smile

slacker.
Be sure to include the one game Moon Shadow outscored Black Rain.


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#47 2010-09-17 18:32:49

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Re: Farewell Bird

I have RKBB's full history.

I need to get working on my other teams too lol


Season 10 & 11 Kareem Champions: Just Blaze Season 14 & 15 Champions: Boom Goes The Odenite
Season 12 Bird Champions: Full Eclipse Season 15 Champions: RK Beer Barons
Season 16 West Champions: Even Money
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#48 2010-09-20 10:22:50

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Re: Farewell Bird

Lord Rott wrote:

SwaggerJ wrote:

Maybe I'll throw out some Full Eclipse info for the wiki. I already have a huge post sitting in the team forum that was half finished about 4 seasons ago. Maybe I'll get around to completing it one of these days smile

slacker.
Be sure to include the one game Moon Shadow outscored Black Rain.

According to Black Rain, that never happened... tongue


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Re: Farewell Bird

Looking back...

Bird was actually a solid league. Not the competitiveness of Jordan, and people can sit back and just enjoy themselves in a friendly environment. And you'd make the playoffs if you were active...

Anyone else miss Bird?


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#50 2011-02-09 09:30:02

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