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#26 2009-04-24 00:28:35

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Congrats to Smoke Styles.

Im never one to criticise the award teams but i am very very suprised Licence to Smoke did not make the cut. 

He took out the Pro Steals Crown (3.8spg), was in Pro A all season playing the majority of games against other Pro A teams.

Kaz ?  Surely this is a mistake ?

I probably won't get a response, but if the automated system can overlook that then im really not looking forward to the other teams being announced..

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#27 2009-04-24 00:28:57

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Rick won!?!?!? He's garbage!

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#28 2009-04-24 00:29:05

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So how come bird has only 12 winners and Kareem & Jordan have 14?

That...is a good question.

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#29 2009-04-24 00:30:22

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Branduil wrote:

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Moten and Noel got robbed. I guess 2.9 and 2.6 steals per game in Pro A ain't good enough.

Actually it isn't. That isn't that great to be honest.

My benchmark for a good defense player was 3.5spg. 3 spg+ in PRO A. so...

btw, Congrats on win once again.

There's only three guys in Pro A with more steals than Moten, so...

Um, no offense...but Moten is ranked 15th in Pro in Quality steals...so that may have something to do with it...


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#30 2009-04-24 00:31:44

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Where's Jack Jackson?


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#31 2009-04-24 00:32:02

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Bucko wrote:

Congrats to Smoke Styles.

Im never one to criticise the award teams but i am very very suprised Licence to Smoke did not make the cut. 

He took out the Pro Steals Crown, was in Pro A all season playing the majority of games against other Pro A teams.

He will probably get second team which for a defensive player is a completely inferior award. 

+2 defense >>>> +1 shooting for the defensive players that make second team


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#32 2009-04-24 00:32:02

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Bucko wrote:

Congrats to Smoke Styles.

Im never one to criticise the award teams but i am very very suprised Licence to Smoke did not make the cut. 

He took out the Pro Steals Crown, was in Pro A all season playing the majority of games against other Pro A teams.

Looks like steals are worth just about nothing in whatever program is used to evaluate defense. Only 1 guy in the top 6 of Pro A as far as steals go got an award.

Tesche wrote:

Branduil wrote:

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Actually it isn't. That isn't that great to be honest.

My benchmark for a good defense player was 3.5spg. 3 spg+ in PRO A. so...

btw, Congrats on win once again.

There's only three guys in Pro A with more steals than Moten, so...

Um, no offense...but Moten is ranked 15th in Pro in Quality steals...so that may have something to do with it...

Yeah but 11 of the guys ahead of him aren't in Pro A. NeoGAF has been in Pro A for the vast majority of the season.

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#33 2009-04-24 00:32:50

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Branduil wrote:

Bucko wrote:

Congrats to Smoke Styles.

Im never one to criticise the award teams but i am very very suprised Licence to Smoke did not make the cut. 

He took out the Pro Steals Crown, was in Pro A all season playing the majority of games against other Pro A teams.

Looks like steals are worth just about nothing in whatever program is used to evaluate defense. Only 1 guy in the top 6 of Pro A as far as steals go got an award.

Look at the post above yours.  Wait till all awards are given out before you jump to conclusions.


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#34 2009-04-24 00:39:29

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Grayson Harst = Legend.

Also repping Animation Domination Zapp Brannigan and I made it for Bird.  This is awesome, I've never won anything before.


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#35 2009-04-24 00:40:16

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Branduil wrote:

Bucko wrote:

Congrats to Smoke Styles.

Im never one to criticise the award teams but i am very very suprised Licence to Smoke did not make the cut. 

He took out the Pro Steals Crown, was in Pro A all season playing the majority of games against other Pro A teams.

Looks like steals are worth just about nothing in whatever program is used to evaluate defense. Only 1 guy in the top 6 of Pro A as far as steals go got an award.

Tesche wrote:

Branduil wrote:


There's only three guys in Pro A with more steals than Moten, so...

Um, no offense...but Moten is ranked 15th in Pro in Quality steals...so that may have something to do with it...

Yeah but 11 of the guys ahead of him aren't in Pro A. NeoGAF has been in Pro A for the vast majority of the season.

The did appear to heavily weight contributions in other areas.  The #1 Quality Pro A steal man, Martini from Rage, didn't make it either.  Ddu apparently had just enough points, boards, etc. to scrape through with a 3.0 spg average.


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#36 2009-04-24 00:41:25

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Bucko wrote:

Congrats to Smoke Styles.

Im never one to criticise the award teams but i am very very suprised Licence to Smoke did not make the cut. 

He took out the Pro Steals Crown (3.8spg), was in Pro A all season playing the majority of games against other Pro A teams.

Kaz ?  Surely this is a mistake ?

I probably won't get a response, but if the automated system can overlook that then im really not looking forward to the other teams being announced..

He will be in All-Kareem 2nd Team.


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#37 2009-04-24 00:42:07

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Tesche wrote:

Branduil wrote:

Bucko wrote:

Congrats to Smoke Styles.

Im never one to criticise the award teams but i am very very suprised Licence to Smoke did not make the cut. 

He took out the Pro Steals Crown, was in Pro A all season playing the majority of games against other Pro A teams.

Looks like steals are worth just about nothing in whatever program is used to evaluate defense. Only 1 guy in the top 6 of Pro A as far as steals go got an award.

Tesche wrote:


Um, no offense...but Moten is ranked 15th in Pro in Quality steals...so that may have something to do with it...

Yeah but 11 of the guys ahead of him aren't in Pro A. NeoGAF has been in Pro A for the vast majority of the season.

The did appear to heavily weight contributions in other areas.  The #1 Quality Pro A steal man, Martini from Rage, didn't make it either.  Ddu apparently had just enough points, boards, etc. to scrape through with a 3.0 spg average.

They will be on other teams people....


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#38 2009-04-24 00:43:08

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

aklo wrote:

Where's Jack Jackson?

He will be on another team...


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#39 2009-04-24 00:44:19

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Tesche wrote:

Branduil wrote:

Bucko wrote:

Congrats to Smoke Styles.

Im never one to criticise the award teams but i am very very suprised Licence to Smoke did not make the cut. 

He took out the Pro Steals Crown, was in Pro A all season playing the majority of games against other Pro A teams.

Looks like steals are worth just about nothing in whatever program is used to evaluate defense. Only 1 guy in the top 6 of Pro A as far as steals go got an award.

Tesche wrote:


Um, no offense...but Moten is ranked 15th in Pro in Quality steals...so that may have something to do with it...

Yeah but 11 of the guys ahead of him aren't in Pro A. NeoGAF has been in Pro A for the vast majority of the season.

The did appear to heavily weight contributions in other areas.  The #1 Quality Pro A steal man, Martini from Rage, didn't make it either.  Ddu apparently had just enough points, boards, etc. to scrape through with a 3.0 spg average.

I think you'll find Licence to Smoke was #1 in Pro A and all of Pro for that matter


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#40 2009-04-24 00:45:08

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

can i ask for a small adjustment - change 'roto' to 'rotokingdom', please?


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#41 2009-04-24 00:45:25

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So if your All-Defensive you can't make 1st / 2nd team ??


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#42 2009-04-24 00:47:12

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congrats to the winners.


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#43 2009-04-24 00:47:34

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Congrats to the winners. Maybe next year!!!


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#44 2009-04-24 00:48:15

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TheKaz wrote:

Congratulations to the winners.  Second and First Team will be announced... uhh.... later today I suppose smile  If you don't see your name on the above list, then you may *cough* find your name on tomorrow's list.  No promises, though smile

Keep this in mind everyone......as has been mentioned before.


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#45 2009-04-24 00:48:15

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#46 2009-04-24 00:48:35

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Bucko wrote:

Tesche wrote:

Branduil wrote:

Bucko wrote:

Congrats to Smoke Styles.

Im never one to criticise the award teams but i am very very suprised Licence to Smoke did not make the cut. 

He took out the Pro Steals Crown, was in Pro A all season playing the majority of games against other Pro A teams.

Looks like steals are worth just about nothing in whatever program is used to evaluate defense. Only 1 guy in the top 6 of Pro A as far as steals go got an award.


Yeah but 11 of the guys ahead of him aren't in Pro A. NeoGAF has been in Pro A for the vast majority of the season.

The did appear to heavily weight contributions in other areas.  The #1 Quality Pro A steal man, Martini from Rage, didn't make it either.  Ddu apparently had just enough points, boards, etc. to scrape through with a 3.0 spg average.

I think you'll find Licence to Smoke was #1 in Pro A and all of Pro for that matter

I believe you may be right. I'll wait to see if he makes 1st or 2nd team.If he dosen't then that would be a travesty.BTW congrats to all that made it.


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#47 2009-04-24 00:49:03

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Re: Season 8 All Defensive Team

Harbour wrote:

aklo wrote:

Where's Jack Jackson?

He will be on another team...

That's what I thought last season with Marduk. He was the only player to average 2SPG and 2BPG while remaining in Pro A the entire season. Didn't make All Defensive team, but people said he would definitely make 2nd Team with those numbers...yeah didn't happen. smile

Glad he made it this season though, although his blocking dwindled. Congrats to all the winners!


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#48 2009-04-24 00:49:42

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Congrats to all the winners.

And to my teammate Beldelli of Norman Sooners smile


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#49 2009-04-24 00:51:07

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Bucko wrote:

I think you'll find Licence to Smoke was #1 in Pro A and all of Pro for that matter

I stand corrected, I thought the Blunts finished in Pro B for some reason...

And, Harbour, I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone we have mentioned will be showing up on All-Kareem 1st or 2nd team...they just aren't balanced enough.  I could be wrong, but it sounds like the new automated system is going to reward the multi-cat players more.  I think that is reflected in these winners as well.

EDIT:
License to Smoke may have enough assists and points to make 1st or 2nd team...

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#50 2009-04-24 00:53:06

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Tesche wrote:

Bucko wrote:

I think you'll find Licence to Smoke was #1 in Pro A and all of Pro for that matter

I stand corrected, I thought the Blunts finished in Pro B for some reason...

And, Harbour, I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone we have mentioned will be showing up on All-Kareem 1st or 2nd team...they just aren't balanced enough.  I could be wrong, but it sounds like the new automated system is going to reward the multi-cat players more.  I think that is reflected in these winners as well.

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