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#1 2010-07-12 23:41:29

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Please look at the scheduler

The recent change has been great at eliminating playground games for pro teams, but it has really hurt the variety of teams that you play.  Is it crazy to expect to play everyone in your division at least once?  I posted this in Jordan yesterday, the data is from then.

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Oh is anyone else really bothered by the scheduling?  Some teams in pro A will not accept challenges, and due to the new system they will rarely play anyone in the top 5, while the top 5 is just beating and playing each other on most days.  Count the number of games against the top 5 for each pro A team and you'll see what is happening.

ME:  16
Hammer:  16
Raiders:  10
Skyflakes: 10
FF:  14

These are the top 5, so obviously they only have 4 opponents to choose from.  Now the rest of pro A, who have 5 possible pro A opponents (that are top 5). 

RJ:  3 (all within the first 5 games of the year too)
McDuck:  7
Guardians: 7
DG: 10 (very nice number)
SHIT: 6
Avengers: 8
DR: 9

Interesting eh?  I'm not blaming anyone in particular besides Harbour tongue, but obviously this scheduler is doing exactly what we thought it might.

Long story short, the top 5 teams in the league are playing each other a hugely disproportionate amount of times, while the lower teams are mainly playing each other.  This simply is not fair or fun.


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#2 2010-07-14 14:06:18

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

Anybody care at all?  Is this happening in other leagues too?


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#3 2010-07-14 14:10:15

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

It's even worse in Bird.  The #1 team (NDSU Bison) has played the #2 11 times, and the #3 at least 5-6 times.  I'm not sure how many games have gone against the rest of the top 5.


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#4 2010-07-14 14:13:09

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Well that just sucks.  I'm quitting after this season (not because of this, it is just my time) but I'd like to leave a better game behind for others.  I just don't understand how this doesn't bother more people.

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#5 2010-07-14 14:15:47

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

this definitely needs changing!


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#6 2010-07-14 19:09:56

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

+1


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#7 2010-07-14 21:22:04

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Hannibal wrote:

It's even worse in Bird.  The #1 team (NDSU Bison) has played the #2 11 times, and the #3 at least 5-6 times.  I'm not sure how many games have gone against the rest of the top 5.

The part about this that scares me the most is I'm not sure how we stack up against different lineups.  Need some variety here please so we can better prepare


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#8 2010-07-15 01:58:52

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

Please change. Even going back to the old one would probably be better as there was only 1-2 Pro-Playground games a season.


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#9 2010-07-15 14:55:23

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

I can't challenge most teams in pro A anymore, so for the last 2 weeks of the season we are just supposed to play the #2 team until they become the #3 team and vice versa?  Can we at least get a comment on this?

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#10 2010-07-15 15:34:06

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

wow that would definitely suck.
maybe someone needs to post about this in TT so to catch Kaz's attention?


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#11 2010-07-15 15:36:47

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lulz


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#12 2010-07-15 15:47:38

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I'm not enough of an attention whore to go to TT to get some CR lovin.  What makes me mad is that I mentioned this the instant I read the announcement, but as usual, people didn't understand or care about what I was saying then.  So now things have played out exactly as I thought they would, and it absolutely sucks.  The average pro A teams love it though, because they get to avoid the big boys.

Edit:  I don't mean that as a knock on anyone who did post over in TT though, it does almost have to be that way.

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#13 2010-07-15 15:57:40

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#14 2010-07-15 16:04:26

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Well done sir.  It still isn't good enough, but man am I tired of trying to explain things.


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#15 2010-07-15 16:06:28

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well, i guess all we could really have hoped for at this point (with Kaz's obvious attention on TT) was a quick fix and that is definitely what it is. in a way that was more than i expected. dont know if thats a good thing...


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#16 2010-07-15 16:46:49

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Yep it is great we got something.  I'm just the type to care about the long term picture even if it doesn't include me.


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#17 2010-08-19 10:35:12

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

OK, I know there is not a perfect system to set the schedule that will make everyone happy, but Pwnstars and Ballin For Dummies have played 9 games against each other this season. That's 9 out of 20 games. That is crazy. Is the scheduler working as intended?


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#18 2010-08-19 10:53:39

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Lord Rott wrote:

OK, I know there is not a perfect system to set the schedule that will make everyone happy, but Pwnstars and Ballin For Dummies have played 9 games against each other this season. That's 9 out of 20 games. That is crazy. Is the scheduler working as intended?

Just to add to this.  NONE of the games were challenges.


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#19 2010-08-19 10:57:11

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

It's obviously a case of Pwnstars being too good at what they do... B4D just happen to be the toughest of the clingy bunch, fighting their way to the front of the pack for another appointment with the Pwnstars. Tone down on the level of service you provide, and the stalkers get gradually less clingy.


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#20 2010-08-20 07:04:16

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RKCH v FF for the 6th time in 7 games tonight.

I'll give them credit, they have had our number so far, but I think it's fair to say if we had played these guys only 2 or 3 times we'd probably be sitting at 4 or 5 losses. Obviously that doesn't mean much now, but it'll be shit if we miss out on a higher seed come play off time because we have lost most of our games against one team that we have played 33% of our games against, but have mostly had our way with everyone else.


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#21 2010-08-20 07:15:56

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Well I guess we just need to shoot out more challenges. Although if bb had a problem with it last year, it might be a good idea for Kaz to consider giving us a few more challenges to use.


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#22 2010-08-20 07:31:49

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Re: Please look at the scheduler

From days 6-24 it's last years style, so it's working as designed ATM.  Don't understand why it's not just the first 5 days like that though.


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http://www.courtrivals.com/forums/viewt … id=1490655


From here on out, here's the skinny with the scheduler!

From Days 0-5, the following priority is set for scheduling teams:
Challenges
Divisional
Conference
Rating

From Days 6-24, the following priority is set for scheduling teams:
Challenges
Rating

From Days 25+, the following priority is set for scheduling teams:
Challenges
Divisional
Conference
Rating



The reason for the change is that there's some concern over the same teams playing each other over and over.  So, to put an end to that, this nifty change has been put into place.

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#23 2010-08-20 07:44:14

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Maybe that should be cut down from day 6-24 to 5-15 or 5-18?


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#24 2010-08-20 07:45:35

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So we can expect another 3 or so matches... hmm


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#25 2010-08-20 07:56:47

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clips wrote:

So we can expect another 3 or so matches... hmm

heh. Oh joy.


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